The Lotus Soul Type

[Fazzaroo]

So, we're still working out the kinks here, but we're wondering about the Lotus soul type.

As members, do you have any specific ideas that you'd like to see this type have? Or would it be preferred if this type was simply removed from the board?

We'd like to make this place fun for you, so putting your ideas into the game will help us do that.

Give us your ideas.

[Shira Servia]

Well, considering the Lotus and Neo types, I like them both, although I do like Neo over Lotus slightly.

In the reply to my question, Lotus was given a more of a range preference of style of attacks. The Ranged attacks in this type of board do give it a slight disadvantage to the Neo moves. Neo gets stat gains with their skills and such, and ranged attacks can't neccessarily get stat gains other than attack.

I'm still working this over in my head to make them different, but maybe we can have them both do a bit of ranged attacks or something, and make one type, such as Neo, use the elements with their body, and the Lotus type to use elements in conjunction with items, like adding their soul power of fire to a sword to make it a flaming sword. Or they can produce a flaming sword on their own, but that might cross into the Neo tree.

Maybe Lotus can use all elements yet excel in none and Neo can specialize. Once again, not too sure. It's a nice idea, but who knows.

Like I said, still working this out in my head. I'll post up when I work out more. The Lotus and Neo ideas are good, but I feel Lotus is missing something. Not sure what yet.

[Fazzaroo]

That works well with what we were thinking. What we think is;

Lotus will be able to use all elements with ranged attacks, yet will also be able to manifest elemental based objects such as a fire sword as you suggested, and also "enchant" objects in their environment and bestowning said object with an elemental alignment.

Neo on the other hand will still have their single elemental domination, yet will be able to focus that element into ranged attacks as well.

[Shira Servia]

That sounds pretty good.

Now, if those ideas are used, will Neo have the sole ability to combine elements or will they both have the ability. It sounds like something both would have...

[Fazzaroo]

Sorry, what do you mean by "combine elements?"

[Yume]

well like i had the idea from start that i told Faz,

some people are able to pass some certain points where the element pass to another element, like the legendary heat that passes to extreme cold. liek fire becomes ice.

or lighting collecting the atomics to a mass and becomes burning plasma. tho that would req a high number on soul stat

[Shira Servia]

Combining might have been a bad term. When I was reading the rules on Neo Soul, it said they could Transmute elements from one to another. I think the wording confused me on it.

[sohee]

Here's what I think, and it seems much simpler than what it currently is.

Why not make Lotus Soul type capable of controlling the elements and allow them to use them anywhere, even without a source (i.e. creating water from the moisture in the air, combusting oxygen to create flames, wind and earth need not apply). However, that's all they can do; control the elements externally.

As for the Neo soul, just abandon the stat bonuses, since I believe augmenting yourself with the elements is bonus enough. They can't control the elements externally, but they can draw upon their power and augment their attacks and defenses with the elements. Using Shira's idea, they could also enchant weapons or objects with the said element.

This discerns Lotus- and Neo-soul types from each other by making Lotus the range-oriented one while Neo focuses on close combat.

If you need me to expand upon anything, just let me know.

[Narin Carter]

Sept 15, 2008 19:15:47 GMT -5 Shira Servia said:

Combining might have been a bad term. When I was reading the rules on Neo Soul, it said they could Transmute elements from one to another. I think the wording confused me on it.

By that it means, changing the structure compounds of the element itself and changing one element into a different element, such as freezing fire to create ice and so forth.

sohee. It could work, though Lotus Soul types are already able to use the elements spontaniously. Neo Soul type is built around the ability of having their element enhance their bodies, so I think the stat gain should remain.

Preferably, I'd like to go with the idea Shira thought of.

[Shira Servia]

Well, I hope a single decision is made soon. I'm stuck between Lotus and Neo right now, still leaning towards Neo, but the final decision will decide it.

[Fazzaroo]

We'll go with what was suggested.

Lotus Soul will be able to use all four elements whilst being able to manifest objects spontaniously and enchant objects with an elemental alignment.

Neo will focus on one element to start with which can be used for self support (stat increase) whilst being able to use that element for ranged attacks as well, with the ability to transform one element into the other, at the cost of soul energy.

Thanks for your input guys.

[Shira Servia]

Alright, now that we have that settled...for now...I have a question her.

Now then, with the Lotus Soul, does using the elements in themself cost soul energy? Or does only their special skill does?

Because if using the elements in themselves doesn't cost soul energy, then we have one overpowered Soul User, at least in my eyes. All a user can do to block a strike is make a small wall of ice or earth to stop an attack. Many other ideas are capable as well.

Of course, this is in my eyes. It's that d**ned Avatar show.

I'm guessing that there will be limits of some type of course.

Also, by manifesting objects with the Lotus, you mean Fire Swords, Ice Spears, and the like correct? What I was thinking is that this can be done with their Soul Skill only, and give stats. That does cross into the Neo Path though.

Boy am I into this board...

I guess the main thing about this is that I'm confused with what Lotus' Soul Skill will be. Neo can empower their own bodies with an element for stat gains. What exactly are we able to do with Lotus Soul Skills?

[Yume]

well i have an idea, we could let Lotus be some what like an Alchemist and what they touch they can manipulate, like if one specialises themself to make things that they touch explode or turn it to something explosive they havet to basicly TOUCH the object example, a normal small glass orb that you touch and becomes explosive.

but ofc we cant let everyone be able to manipulate everything, so we let them choose one thing, like maybe, Stone manipulation, or Object Transofrmation, like if you have an iron pipe you can make it in to a spear and so on. does this sound like a good idea?

[Gene]

my thought was that Neo's were the alchemists, and that Lotus were just a-typical "elementalists" (this is me coming from a board about magic here)

and as far as i can tell, the elemental manipulation of the lotus types IS their soul skill, and therein, they would have special moves like Yume just said, rock spear, flame sword, etc.

[Fazzaroo]

Yeah, the use of elemental abilities for Lotus types does consume their soul stat.

As Yume said, the Lotus type would be like the alchemist where they are able to change the objects into such things as a firesword or a rock spear. Moderation for this type can come in the form of them only being able to do one of these at the start, and to change/manifest a second item type would need to be done by either buying an item or by levelling up.